Category: the Rant Board
So for the 3rd year in a row after trying to post ads up on blind bargains for $5 a piece, which is a complete rip off of blind folks, run by a blind person, the site still does not work. 3 years ago i was able to create an account, but his payment form just kept denying my credit card info, tried my friend's, and it denied his, and I had to beg someone to pay $5 out of his paypal account so I could publish my ad. Now 3 years later, I create an account on bb, and now I can't even log in. Oh and don't bother emailing this JJ badaw or whatever the hell he wants to be called because he'll just email you back and tell you the site is fine, regardless of whether or not you can pay, which you shouldn't have to, to post an ad. If Craigslist charged to post ads, they'd have no business. And then to charge the very people that don't have money....what a god damn joke folks. A classic con artist at work. Any experience with this website? On top of that, there are what look to be fake ads like you see on website where this guy is trying to sell his e book for blind entrepreneurs...real sketchy looking. oh and most ebay auctions seem to be out dated. And people still send this guy money?
Lol. Oh my god!!! I'm about to piss my pants laughing--because, my friend, the sight BlindBargains is the sister site of the zone. Yep, pal. The same guys run this site as the blind bargains site. Why don't you find out a little more background detail about the origins of a site and the possible correlation between it and the forum upon which you are about to post a rant regarding it. lol
No. I have no affiliation with BlindBargains myself, but it's not a scam. And just in case you haven't noticed, most newspapers and other sites that run classifides do charge the people to post ads. That's why they're called ads. Just because craigslist doesnt' do it doesnt' mean that most places don't.
And, are you kidding me? Someone's not supposed to charge you money for a service because you're blind? It seems blind people are grappeling for equality in every respect, except when it comes to paying up. lol
That's like: if I ran a business, say, and I decided not to charge any of my friends a fee for my service because they were my friends. I'd go under, and my business would drown. I have a lot of friends. lol
Seriously, dude. Don't get mad just because a couple of guys--blind or not--have figured out a way to make a bit of money and provide a service where there's a niche for it.
I've run ads on the BlindBargains site and I've actually sold most of the things I've advertised, and I've always gotten legit inquiries at the very least. I had issues with logging into the site at one point too, but I calmly emailed the admin, described my issue, and I got it resolved. I don't know what your payment issue is, but I never tried paying with a credit card anyway. Paypal is free and convenient for a person to create, and you can link your bank or credit card to a paypal account so you can pay for whatever, etc.
As for the ads that you see on the site, just like the ones you see on this one--duh, they're sponsor ads. People pay (surprise surprise) for their ad to be displayed on the landing page or home page of the site. The site needs these sponsors to fund it's maintenance and hosting. The business--whatever it may be--needs to run the ads because this whay they get exposure. Maybe you aught to buy that blind entrepreneurial Ebook--looks like you need to be taught about the basics of business and economics. I'm a sucker in math and most things money-related, and even a math moron like myself understands the basic win-win circumstances of ads being run for pay.
I have no vested interest in either of these sites except as a user. But I've had positive experiences with both this site and BlindBargains. And it seems like your scam scream is born of frustration and a lack of research or understanding of how classifides work in general. It's entitled individuals like yourself who give blind people a bad name. Now, many people will say that none of us represent each other just because we have a disability in common, but come on. To the sighted general public, if they've met one of us, they've met all of us. And when someone jumps out and touts around all the: blindness equals poverty bullshit, and how dare the blind make other blind people pay, how can we expect people to treat those of us with a disability with respect.
Hey--you want to use a service, you gotta pay for it. it's up to the provider to place a price tag on the service they're making available to you. You can take it or leave it. But dont' go ranting about a business's reputation just because you disagree with their pricing. At least not until you've researched whether their practices are in fact legitimate or not.
That's all .
Thank you.
OH and by the way, Craigslist doesn't charge for posting ads. This is true. But craigslist is a cesspool of scams. It hosts tons of bullshit ads posted by piss-poor bullshitters trying to make a buck off of gullible people. Craigslist has very little legitimate on it anymore--at least in terms of how many ads are being posted daily and how many of them are actuallly legitimate.
Trust me. I'm a freelance writer and I've given up on searching for new clients on craigslist because ninety percent of the ads are scams, whereas, in the beginning, that's where I gained my initial client base. This was before Craigslist was as widely known' and used by every tom, dick and harry in the book, as it is today. and why are the ads mostly scams? Because it costs nothing to post them. The scammers have nothing to lose and a lot to gain if they capture the right kind of atention. A scammer wouldnt' pay for fifteen spam ads to be posted if the cost was five dollars for each ad. But he'll post thirty, forty, even a hundred ads for free. lol.
Has it occurred to you that maybe, besides the fact that the owner of BlindBargains wants to make a few bucks on the posted classifieds, he's also trying to weed out bullshit ads?
BTW, craigslist is not a business. They also dont' depend financial on the posters, so the quantity of posts they put up doesnt' affect their business. it's a pay-per-click opperation--again, kept up by sponsorers who post banner ads. So... hate to say this, but that statement about craigslist's business going under if their ads were for pay is dead wrong and nonsensical.
Just had to add that.
never read those long posts but i buy shit off jj and always up front and answers my many issues. This site here needs a way for us to use our amazing skills and make money. Writing contest each week or a timed on the spot story based on the parameters given. Then as we become huge because of our gifts we tell jj that we cash out and play golf with my opti shot. Can i test the accessibility of that golf sin on this site?
Now I am no member of the Church of Blindology, and don't participate in marginalization of groups.
Let me tell you something else. People inside a group who marginalize its members are not loimited to the blind: These were the Native Americans who helped spread the infected blankets to their own kind, because they were supposedly a bit more civilized than their savage brethren.
Post 1 is entirely unfounded, of course. But using Craigslist as an example is not. Craigslist has a business model, it is the targeted ads.
Now, in defending BlindBargains, I don't have to diminish the valuable of a multi-billion-dollar free site - Craigslist. A defense of the paid by attacking the free is no defense at all.
But I will say, I have advertised on BlindBargins and paid for that ad a few times over. Sometimes with good success. Sometimes not. And the not success, I attributed to poor writing - my problem - though I later learned that product was not popular anymore.
I have also used Craigslist. Craigslist is community-driven at a local level, and so its value depends on where you are. Portland and San Francisco have high levels of community policing - where spam and other ads get flagged.
Also, when the social network app.net came out, at $150 per year for a membership, many I knew complained about it and cited Facebook as an example. None of these people were blind, and all had some variant of reasons for their complaints.
"free" just means click-through targeted advertising, and some sites will do it and some will not. People refusing to go beyond the paywall are not doing so because of disability, race, gender, etc. Yes, I have seen some fools who saw a woman complain about app.net and claim it was her gender. That of course would be seen as sexist, while few of us dare to challenge posts like post 2.
Again, I've used both sites for different reasons, and BlindBargains makes sense how they run it for their limited audience.
But again, Craigslist does have a business model, it is billions of dollars successful, and I have had success selling things in the past on there. Since it is locally-driven, it's up to people in that area to community police.
But the open access / open internet ideology is most popular on the West Coast.
Leo. I didnt' mean that craigslist doesn't have a business model. I said it was ad-driven. this lune in the first post said that if craigslist didn't have free ads, it wouldnt' have any business. that's not correct, and that's what I was trying to point out. And I'll agree with you that people usually decide not to pay for services, but this guy states outright that he shouldn't pay because he's blind--and that other blind people shouldn't pay either because they're poor. It's true that disability isn't the only reason that people choose not to pay--it's usually because they're cheap by nature. But if someone states outright why they believe something should be free, it's not worth ignoring it for the fear of inter-group marginalization, as you'd put it.
As I said, craigslist has legitimate ads. but even in an area like boston or new York city, ther's scam upon scam upon scam upon scam. But if it cost, say, 2 dollars to post an ad, you wouldnt' see so many that repeat themselves. You wouldn't see so many that aren't real. You wouldnt' see people advertising their pyramid schemes with the same ads across fifty cities. Perhaps craigslist works well in some locations, where the community is conscious and responds to spam well. But it's honestly more of a scam-fest than anything lately. and it's not craigslist's fault, it's the damn users who have no qualms posting a shit ad because they don't have ot pay for it anyway. It's true in most situations. People pay more money and in return, they get quality control. It's true in writing communities, where if you sign up with a company who pays you five bucks per assignment, you get shitty clients, and then, if you sign up with a company that pays you twenty-five bucks per assignment at the very least, you get clients that treat you like a professional and give you great assignments worth writing.
Fre is good to some degree, but in most cases, if you want something worth having, you gotta pay. That's my point.
I love Blindbargains.com! That's all.
A scam? Have you checked pay pal out? They aren't even FDIC insured. That is why I use my credit card. But if you are a legit business, why doesn't your site work?
And hey, I've made some good $$ from craigslist which is why I said what I said. There are tons of free email lists too. So why would I want to pay some asshole to post an ad on a website. Even the zone has a garage sale for sale section for people who want to get rid of stuff. I mean, most of the people on this site probably back BB too. It's like a collective gang almost. I can log into this site at any given point and see at least 10 of the same names as the time before. I've just called them bots because they never log off. I never come on this website. I've been on here since 07 and nothing has changed lol. A successful business model is doing something or producing something creative rather than finding a way to be a middle man to make some money like bb is lol.
Hey there. Sorry for the frustration with the Blind Bargains site. I've done a bunch of tinkering to get the kinks out of the log in process but perhaps there's still a lingering issue. I also have been at a conference for most of this week so if it is seeming like it's taking longer to get a response, that's likely why. But we'll get you set up so you can get your ads posted. Thanks all for the support. Regretably, I haven't put nearly the time into the Zone BBS website as I would have liked, and I appreciate those that have stuck around.
I agree total with post 2. You really don't understand business. You showed that when you said adds were insured. That is your bank?
Apparently they do because they get something out of the services and things that are acquired from this site. I have heard it myself but I have not taken a look at what this site is, but I can asure you I won't run away afraid because someone is overly dramatic, and because they have a problem with some folks who want to make some money. That isn't being a con artist my friend, that is business in a nutshell. If you don't like the prices you see, and if you aren't happy with the way things are working then you have the power to leave. Something tells me you are blowing this out of proportion. I doubt he would just say he will fix it and blow you off like that.
JJ, I know as a business owner you have to be nice to the customer, but I wish you could make an exception. I'd say this one isn't worth it, if all he's going to do is bash your site. Well, sites. To the original poster, guess you're another one of those blind people that thinks they should get everything free. Sorry to say, you're in for a rude awakening. Not everyone will cater to you all your life.
Some very legitimate businesses are middle men. Without middle men and trade routes, much of our recent evolution as a species would not have happened. So yes, BlindBargains is a middle man on the trade route we call the Internet. Contributing to human evolution? Possibly. Why not?
You're not just paying for JJ to post an add. You're paying for that add to be circulated via twitter, and an email list. Sure other email lists are free, but BB is one of the widest seen resources in this community for selling anything.
Dude, are you kidding? Plenty of successful business models happen to do with being middle men. Don't you know how much money managers, coaches, agents, brokers, etc. make? All of those positions, no matter in what industry, are middle men. And people use them legitimately to get stuff done. Please stop being such a drama queen and get an education. FYI: the reason you see the same ten people logged in here, as you say, all the time is because these ten people--whoever they are--probably have no social life outside of the zone. or, hey, they just like hanging out here and talking to the friends they've made. Does that make them an outcast? probably in some eyes, yes. I've spent my share of time on here to procrastinate and escape. But if you think that these people are part of some elaborate scheme to back the owner of this site or any other site he has, you're nuts.
Anyway, no one's forcing you to pay for an ad if you don't want to do so. But you can't vilify those who do charge for these ads to be posted even if there are some free services. Do you know blind bargains has an IPhone app which also circulates your classified ads? Do you know that there are fees to host a site as well as create an IPhone ap?
I'm sorry I'm lighting a fuel under this drama queen's ass, but I simply can't stand it when people winge about the stupidest stuff and act like an entitled princess.
By the way, being paranoid about paypal isnt' going to make your life any easier in the future, I suspect. Almost every e-commerce site and legitimate business is affiliated with PayPal, and yes, I know they're not FDIC ensured. But that's actually helped some people out rather than it's hindered them. Go look up how to run a business and then we'll talk.
to the first poster, since you're convinced that you know how businesses are run, and wanna act like you know it all, why don't you take over all of JJ's jobs, and put forth the effort that they require, all by your wise self?
oh, wait, that would take too much energy. complaining is what comes naturally to you, evidently.
and, for the record, I don't think you're wise, at all. I was using that to help my point.
I've successfully advertised and sold items on Blindbargains.com, and I've also purchased an item through their classified section. I had absolutely no problems with any of the transactions I made.
It seems you're one of the blind people out there who assumes we should get everything for free. It doesn't work that way, and it shouldn't.
I'd write more, but others have already made the points I wanted to make.
So guys, I submitted a contact us request to blind bargains, and 2 days later, still no reply, and I can't log in to the site to post a classified. Changed my password 5 times, still can't log in, not using my user name, or email address. Go figure, so if someone can post the secret to blind bargains just leave it here I guess. Oh and he never responded either to if he fixed his payment form because you can't pay with a credit card either. So we'll see if next week or month he'll respond. Guess paypal is the only option. That's just silliness throwing your money away like that. paypal tax, plus $5 to a site that doesn't work lol. Hey, and this is on like 5 different devices, from different areas of the country. So don't tell me my computer is fucked up either. So if all you guys can use it just fine, then what is the secret to the site.
I logged in just fine, for instance. it's your account. As I said a few posts back, I also had issues logging in for a while till it got fixed. Blind bargains never had a credit card option to my knowledge. I still don't see why you're complaining about that. plenty of businesses opporate on only one payment option, and a lot of them choose paypal. Most people don't have any beef with PayPal.
You're a dude, so here's the secret.
Get really drunk, get a pair of scissors and a small torch. Cut off your left testicle, coterize the spot, and mail said testicle in a jar to the site's owner. That's how I did it: I had three so could spare one.
Nary a problem logging in, now, you see.
If you don't want to log in to PayPal, you can still pay through them as a guest with a credit card.
Sounds like user error to me, given that no one else is having problems. Usually if it works fine for everyone but one person, it means you're doing something wrong. Maybe you should learn more about operating online, on multiple levels? How businesses are run, for instance, and how to log into a website besides this one.
leo, too funny! does it work with super glue?
to the poster, dude chill out. perhaps Y O U R the issue? could it be you are not entering the correct password or username? just chill out papi. what are u seeling that is so damn important? weed? pills? beers? bearded ladies? just saying. god.
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Leo! lmfao! I bursted out laughing, now Ii find myself not stopping, thank you! lol lol! :D
Yeah, pay pal allows you to pay with a credit card. but this jj guy has a credit card form all of his own on his site. I know because I've tried using it and it does not work. I emailed him then, like 2 years ago. He replies once and tells me nope, no problems must be my end even though i can use my card on any other site. For all I know he's collecting peoples' cc info and storing it and when people enter it the page just refreshes asking for a different card. Still, I haven't gotten an answer, even after one of you admitted you had issues. And most sites use pay pal? I have only run into a couple websites that even mentioned pay pal. Most sites want a debit/credit card. And still no reply from bb yet. Here, I'll try to log in again. And nope still can't log in. A joke. Oh and I forgot to mention he also states that if the item doesn't sell he'll refund your money. LOL. just LOL. That never happened. Guess you guys can just keep pumpin the fives to him waiting for your item to sell because blind individuals can't afford to pay the price your asking. So when it's all said and done you've payed this goon 50 bucks just to repost ads because your item never sells. Hell, a newspaper would be more reliable. It might be more money but at least they're established. Since I think there's lots of gullible blindies out there just begging to make money, there's sites like these with these sketchy looking posts of random guys selling E books trying to get your money. Have you heard of late night infomercials or online ads where some guy is pushing his book and claims it's not a scam just so you'll buy his book, you get nothing and he's raking it in. That's what this site is like almost. Trust me, I've got my own life, but reason I came here is because bb and this site are one in the same, run by the same people. But just like it was 7 years ago, I have gotten no answers, only insults. Oh well. We'll mve on.
if you didn't do like I said, though, you can't expect results.
Weren't you the guy looking for a place to live short term a while back? How did that work out for ya?
Oh don't worry. I'm living pretty comfortably in my own studio out west. Best decision to move west I ever made. And no, I don't ask for people for help because I have my independence )tm), and I don't use govt assistance. I work for myself and go to school. I guess you were trying to act like I was desperate then or something. Truth be told I was in a bad situation that I was trying to get out of. Had to fuck the guy over but it all worked out. Anyway yeah I've given up on this blind bargains thing. Another dude was saying over in another thread that he's got the same thing I'm trying to sell and he'd have to basically give it away to make anything off of it. Doesn't that just show people who live on govt assistance like just SSI can't afford shit. Hell I just kicked a guy out of my apt who I was trying to help because he kept mooching off me then called me an asshole. He was making $1239 here and where he moved back to, Missouri, he was making $1900. Yet he pissed it all away. And it's those people that piss me off. They want everything handed to them. I make half of what he made here and I'm paying back the govt. Bro I'm not desperate to sell anything, but I'm not going to throw my money away to some asshole who's site won't let me log in or pay to post an ad that will be distributed to a group of people who can't afford their own food. Guess I just have a different view on life. I have accepted payments on my site and I don't use pay pal either. Why can't this guy do it. Now if I have to go into my personal financial details, then I'll say this. Paypal tried fucking me over and I was charged over $105 for something that was not my fault. So I calld them up, threatened to sue them and told them to delete my financial info. They didn't delete it, they just black listed my info. So whether I log into paypal or not it doesn't matter, I can't use my CC info through their service all so they can rape me. Yeah I don't think so. If someone wants something bad enough they'll pay with a credit card directly or if they want it bad enough, a money order with signature confirmation. Truth be told though, blindies think it's just easier to sit at their computer and go to a website to pay for something rather than get off their ass and get their credit card. Oh wait, you can't read the number lol. Gotta get some sighted help for that. lol.
Um... you *did not* have to "fuck him over," learn how to have some integrity, make wiser decisions and maybe you wouldn't end up in such precarious situations.
Talk about stereotypical. So according to you, people should not trust me when I finish my book, possibly get it published, and make some offers to this community because authors are in it for the money, and because you either can't figure out how to log in to a website or talk to J like a civilized young man? Makes total sense.
Oh, and two more things that I nearly missed. You can figure out how to afford things with SSI, it's this thing you need to do called budgeting. Now, I am not actually being sarcastic with that last statement because not everyone knows how to budget. I am not an accountant or a financial advisor but I'd be glad to help someone out if they needed to learn how to budget. And also, realize that SSI is not and should not be considered a permanent means of making money for life. That isn't what it is intended for.
Lastly, there isn't anything wrong with asking for help occasionally. It does not deprive you of your independence, take away your freedom, or make you lesser of a man if you seriously do need help with something. Everyone does at times which is why I don't buy that when people say that.
Wait a minute! Let me break it down for ya. "Truth be told though, blindies think it's just easier to sit at their computer and go to a website to pay for something rather than get off their ass and get their credit card." Really? What the fuck? So tell me something, what are you trying to do here? Are you trying to get off your ass and pay with a credit card, or sit on your ass and pay with a credit card on your computer? I'm assuming you're blind, so your banker read you your card number, or whoever but someone did, right? You're acting like you never require help, and truth be told, sighted people ask for help all the time, so you don't know what the hell you're talking about. What's the difference between what you're trying to do online versis what you're saying? Sighted people use credit cards on their computer as well, how else are they gonna pay online if it weren't for pen pal, debit or credit you schmuck? What does that have to do with being on your ass, or getting off it you still gotta make transactions/payments online. If we think it's easier, why then, are you seeking to do the exact same thing? You saying that blindies like to pay through a website without getting up to use their credit card is plain ignorant, sorry. And it's none of your business how we got our card number. Dude, get over yourself. I have no beif with you, I don't know you. But it makes my blood boil when you use stereotypical comments against your own kind, only to seek some input from these blindies. I'm no business expert. Try another website if you don't like it. That's all.
So, you think everyone's out to fuck you over, yet you admit that you fucked the guy over... and that it all worked out in the end? Wow.
Ryan, you're writing a book? Didn't know. lol
Anthony, My sentiments exactly. I guess it's ok for this dude to fuck someone over once in a while, but if anyone even looks like they might be fucking him over--even if they aren't--it's time to cry wolf. Way for the pot to call the kettle black. Yep, you're totally trustworthy, dude. lol.
BTW, I wonder how you got your card number if you're blind and your using it. Ooops. Think someone must have read it to you. Guess you're just as blind as the rest of us...Damn. (Insert cartoon crash sound here) lol.
Yes, and my fully sighted daughter depends on me. Aging parents depend on us midlifers to help them out. New parents depend on each other and olders to lend a hand.
Your independence mythos come from the Blood And Thunder novels of the 19th century. That cowboy lone ranger existence was only the existence of a very few, and the time period was about 30 years. That means there were people who were born before it, lived through, and grew old and reflected on it.
Independence is a myth: homo sapien is by definition a social creature. And, you guessed it, I wrote this while sitting on my ass. Because most office pukes sit on our asses while working.
I am actually, though this guy caught me red handed trying to manipulate the system. Ah well I guess one is the same as the rest. Just like all blindies poke their eyes and mooch off SSI and sit on their butts all day and buy stuff like pizza with our credit cards.
Hey. I buy pizza with my credit card, ryan. How dare you expose me like that. But I only buy pizza for me and my partner. Not my kid. He doesnt' get to eat because I can't afford to feed him. Because my SSI doesn't cover food for my offspring, just for me and my blindy partner. Ugh. Too bad, right? lol.
Me, I like fucking. I use my fucking credit card, fucking PayPal, love that one, even my fucking bank account.
I've not been fucked over yet, but fucked. Smile. Oh, are we talking buy stuff here?
Seriously, I'll bet this sight works just fine, you just wish to discredit it. That is fine. You failed.
Haha wayne, lol! Bernadetta, great one! lol! :)
I want to know why I can't use the cash in my wallet over the Internet.
Let me break it down for you:
I'm sitting on my ass either in front of a computer or with an iPad on my lap, and maybe I am in a pub drinking. In fact, I just tipped the generous bartender who gave me a free glass as a regular customer.
Now the cash I use at the pub, is in my wallet, right next to my ass upon which I am sitting. Is this not too difficult to take cash from ass to Internet? Why haven't they done this yet? It must be because they hate us and want to fuck us over.
Send all cash to me. I'll help you.
It would be cool to have these ninny ATM;s, where you insert your cash and the payment goes to the business directly, that way you don't have to sit on your Ass, ahem I mean use your credit card. Maybe like the machines you use instead of the of the cash resister, but smaller and you can program where the ash goes to. No identity theft or worries about having your card stolen, oh, and no one has to read the card to us blinds. Hahaha lol not.
Fuck, sorry for my typos! damn! I meant cash register, a C before the ash, and Blindys ahahaha lol!
You can actually do that with you iPhone sort of. You can take a picture of a check and deposit that in to your bank. There is an app that reads cred cards too for payments.
Now, I want it to go the other way, cash gets printed and comes to me at my desk. Of cours cash is becoming less and less necessary to use. I can pay for my coffee or food and many things with my phone now.
Smooth.
Square Wallet is beautiful, and I love how a lot of local businesses use it. Then you don't have to use the card, or have a wait person refuse to write down a tip for themselves because they cannot, as one told me, write herself a tip.
So you can just tip them through Square Wallet. I do it all the time.
this so awesome! I have my bank app on my phone, but I really have trouble depositing my checks, as I have difficulty taking the picture, any ideas on how to do this?